tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2220966763638300672.post7764890921994522725..comments2023-07-29T05:11:23.558-04:00Comments on Climate Observations: The Inverted ENSO Signal In The SST Residuals Of The East Indian And West Pacific OceanBob Tisdalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15462377647970214137noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2220966763638300672.post-21170205496886541862010-03-31T08:56:34.919-04:002010-03-31T08:56:34.919-04:00Anonymous: You asked, "Thanks for your effort...Anonymous: You asked, "Thanks for your efforts. The above quote by the aussies appears to signal a fairly rapid and 'longer term' drop in pacific temps. Am I right?"<br /><br />I believe the BOM limits its discussion about OHC to the tropical Pacific on their ENSO Wrap-Up webpage (Dated March 31), which is where the quote came from:<br />http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/enso/<br /><br /><br />In other words, OHC "east of the dateline dropping to their lowest values since April 2009," is really only an indication that the Eastern tropical Pacific released heat during the El Nino. And the drop in sea surface height also indicates the release of heat. <br /><br />Sorry, I don't interpret what they wrote as an indication of a long-term decrease. We'll have to wait for the next NODC OHC update (this month?) to see if the 5-year decline in tropical Pacific OHC continues, and I would think it should:<br />http://i49.tinypic.com/2nut183.pngBob Tisdalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15462377647970214137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2220966763638300672.post-17797942062696409902010-03-31T08:20:32.687-04:002010-03-31T08:20:32.687-04:00The most noticeable feature of the past fortnight ...The most noticeable feature of the past fortnight has been the decrease in Pacific Ocean heat content, with values east of the dateline dropping to their lowest values since April 2009, indicating the deeper ocean is also slowly cooling. Likewise, sea surface height in the central and eastern Pacific is also decreasing. <br /><br />Bob<br /><br />Thanks for your efforts. The above quote by the aussies appears to signal a fairly rapid and 'longer term' drop in pacific temps. Am I right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2220966763638300672.post-90358821198969732010-03-29T18:03:24.128-04:002010-03-29T18:03:24.128-04:00John: You asked, "So, in essence, this suppo...John: You asked, "So, in essence, this supports your concept of a lagged ENSO signal in the global SST anomalies that is not picked up by traditional models?"<br /><br />This post confirms that the dipole relationship exists.<br /><br />Keep in mind that this post shows an effect that's in the residuals, not actual SST anomalies. In past posts, using SST anomalies (not residuals), I've shown that East Indian and West Pacific Oceans Warm in response to El Nino and La Nina events, and it's the secondary La Nina-related warming (that's not accounted for by simply removing the ENSO signal from global temperatures) that biases global SST anomalies upward, creating an upward trend.Bob Tisdalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15462377647970214137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2220966763638300672.post-71908444643544232062010-03-29T10:31:58.565-04:002010-03-29T10:31:58.565-04:00Hi Bob -
I just want to make sure I understand th...Hi Bob -<br /><br />I just want to make sure I understand the significance of the post. You explain it well, but I just want to make sure I am appreciating the next logical step.<br /><br />So, in essence, this supports your concept of a lagged ENSO signal in the global SST anomalies that is not picked up by traditional models? <br /><br />Thanks, as always.Johnnoreply@blogger.com