tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2220966763638300672.post5185315979622793135..comments2023-07-29T05:11:23.558-04:00Comments on Climate Observations: Borenstien Sea Surface Temperature Article Is MisleadingBob Tisdalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15462377647970214137noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2220966763638300672.post-71241086020453858992009-08-23T18:29:18.334-04:002009-08-23T18:29:18.334-04:00Anonymous: You asked, “There is something weird in...Anonymous: You asked, “There is something weird in the Arctic Ocean dataseries: In may 2009 there was a spike in SST anomalies.How can that happen in early spring, when most of it is still covered by ice?<br /><br />“And why there is not such a spike in June-July, in the middle of summer?”<br /><br />I assume you’re asking about the differences in the maps presented in my May SST anomaly update post here…<br />http://i39.tinypic.com/2roreo8.jpg<br /><br />…and the SST anomalies shown in Figure 6 above. Please note the difference in the color vs temperature scale along the bottom of the maps. The May SST anomaly map is the standard map created by the NOAA NOMADS website. Its scale for that month runs from -2.5 to +3.5 deg C. Now note the scale at the bottom of Figure 6 in this post. It runs from -7 to +7 deg C. I set it that way for this post to point out how small the area in the Arctic was where SST anomalies were above 5 deg C.<br /><br /><br />You wrote, “The global montly SST anomalies timeseries is very different(whith its strong monthly ups and downs) from the ones shown in previous posts, which are nearly equal to the GISTEMP ones.” <br /><br />The graphs in Figures 1 through 4 depict SST, not SST anomalies. Look at the temperature scale. Figure 7 is the only graph of SST anomalies in this post.<br /><br />You wrote, “What's up with the data?”<br /><br />Nothing wrong with the data. There is a difference between SST anomalies and SST, and temperature scales on maps provide different appearances.<br /><br />Have a nice dayBob Tisdalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15462377647970214137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2220966763638300672.post-31768683405953240732009-08-23T16:43:47.867-04:002009-08-23T16:43:47.867-04:00There is something weird in the Arctic Ocean datas...There is something weird in the Arctic Ocean dataseries: <br /><br />In may 2009 there was a spike in SST anomalies.How can that happen in early spring, when most of it is still covered by ice?<br /><br />And why there is not such a spike in June-July, in the middle of summer?<br /><br />There is something else:<br /><br />The global montly SST anomalies timeseries is very different(whith its strong monthly ups and downs) from the ones shown in previous posts, which are nearly equal to the GISTEMP ones. <br /><br />What's up with the data?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2220966763638300672.post-5749973776976683152009-08-22T12:16:04.378-04:002009-08-22T12:16:04.378-04:00Hi Bob -
Any thoughts on Dr. Roy's latest pos...Hi Bob -<br /><br />Any thoughts on Dr. Roy's latest post on his website (Aug 22)?<br /><br />It's a bit scary, and I'd love to hear an explanation from an SST expert ...<br /><br />http://www.drroyspencer.com/Johnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2220966763638300672.post-43685912668200166042009-08-21T11:36:32.182-04:002009-08-21T11:36:32.182-04:00Bob:
Point taken. He can't miss the WUWT repr...Bob:<br />Point taken. He can't miss the WUWT reprint!!berniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17098622568174375997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2220966763638300672.post-43467133616948699522009-08-21T11:08:19.511-04:002009-08-21T11:08:19.511-04:00Bob,
Sorry, I forgot that the SST data wouldn'...Bob,<br /><br />Sorry, I forgot that the SST data wouldn't cover the all of southern oceans right now and not Antartica.<br /><br />The surface between 65S and 90S covers 6.7% of the globe (and at an assumed average -25C, that could drop the overall global number by 3.0C so I guess that works then.<br /><br />BillAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2220966763638300672.post-17550596951007699922009-08-21T10:26:39.797-04:002009-08-21T10:26:39.797-04:00bernie: Bernstein will hear about the factual err...bernie: Bernstein will hear about the factual errors in his article. I don't need to email him. <br /><br />It'd look like spam. Do you read emails from unknown parties? I don't.Bob Tisdalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15462377647970214137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2220966763638300672.post-81988598840579559332009-08-21T10:19:45.162-04:002009-08-21T10:19:45.162-04:00Bill Illis: Assume for a moment that between 65S ...Bill Illis: Assume for a moment that between 65S and 90N SST and LST are equal (probably not). How much would the average LST of the Antartic lower the average of the rest when it's thrown into the mix.Bob Tisdalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15462377647970214137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2220966763638300672.post-32892759322789670852009-08-21T09:59:14.474-04:002009-08-21T09:59:14.474-04:00Bob:
Nicely summarized. Have you sent this to Set...Bob:<br />Nicely summarized. Have you sent this to Seth Borenstein to help him wrie a follow up piece that corrects his misrepresentations?berniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17098622568174375997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2220966763638300672.post-7437264644949490992009-08-21T09:47:10.285-04:002009-08-21T09:47:10.285-04:00Bob,
How can the sea surface temperatures be over...Bob,<br /><br />How can the sea surface temperatures be over 18.0C.<br /><br />The average global temperature is supposed to be 15.0C +/- 1.0C (depending on how much warming there has been and the exact number they set for the average global temperature).<br /><br />The math doesn't work or the Earth's surface is indeed warmer than thought.<br /><br />Bill IllisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com